"Forget
You Not"™:
H o l o c a u s t
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u r v i v
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V. The Holocaust
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WE PRESENT
HEREIN "SENSITIVE" AND
CONTROVERSIAL ISSUES
AS WE SCAN, "CHEW," AND
TAKE EXCEPTION TO CERTAIN
REPRESENTATIONS OF THE
HOLOCAUST
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The Lion
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Nazi's
Holocaust, as a
genocide occurrence, is a
complex subject that has
been studied and represented
from numerous "angles" and
covering a vast array of
subjects.
The
type of issues that most
caught our attention
questioned whether we have a
stand or a point of view to
any of the "sensitive"
issues related to the
Holocaust, and if so,
whether we can find a place
in our website where they
can be aired. Particularly,
we have been asked whether
the Holocaust views of
Jewish people or
establishments can be
challenged in here or if
they are immune of any such
scrutiny, taking into
consideration that any such
criticism may inevitably
alienate some Jewish groups,
associations, or persons.
In
entertaining the questions
about our "view" on the
"sensitive" issues of the
Holocaust, we recognized
quickly two things:
- that
we have not one but many
views; and
- that
whatever view or views we
may have to a particular
issue, they are just that
--our views for what they
are worth, and are perhaps
of little or no
importance, in the grand
scale of things.
In
entertaining the question of
whether a Jewish person or
establishment can be
criticized in here, we saw
no problem with that, as
criticism between us, in
here, is very common and
much encouraged to the point
that is being demanded.
Thus,
pondering of how to respond
to all this, we decided that
the best course of action
would be to publish in here
important controversial
issues (from Jews and
non-Jews alike) that were
deemed to have merit and
legitimacy related to our
work through queries and
through selected viewpoints
regardless of one's ethnical
or religious background.
In
addition, we recognized that
there will be situations
indeed when we have to do
much more than presenting
queries and controversial
viewpoints of others, as we
will be forced to take our
own stand on a particular
issue, discovery, or
rebuttal related to our
work. In such rare
situations, specific
articles dealing
with that type of issues
shall be presented in here
by the Managing Editor.
As for
the Holocaust
deniers, the
so-called Revisionists, and
the likes that are engaged
not to revise History but to
deny its existence, we have
nothing to consider or
debate herein as they are
well outside of our sphere
of interest. For them, not
to be ignored, we have made
a "Free Speech" page
carrying this motto:
"Don't bother me
with facts as I see what I
want to see ..."
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And
speaking of
Holocaust
deniers, the
current
president of
Iran, Mahmoud
Ahmadinejad
(that denies
the existence
of the
Holocaust) has
sponsored a
Holocaust
cartoon contest.
[sic!] In
response to
that, we have
created our own
webpage on that
masquerade,
entitled
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"A Contest
of Brotherly
Love,
Iranian Governmental
Style."
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QUERY:
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How History should judge the Judenrat?
On
Judenrat and
the Nazi
Holocaust
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The memory of the collaboration between the Judenrat
and the Nazis
has tortured
me for years.
How do I dare
to call it
collaboration
when the
Judenrat had
presumably no
choice?
I dare because
I saw what
happened and I
experience it.
I dare because
I want to
understand how
the Nazis
corrupted the
Judenrat, left
the Jewish
population
leaderless,
and expedited
the Final
Solution.
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Edwin Langberg, Holocaust Survivor, Princeton Univ.
Ph.D, and the
Author of the
2003 book "Sara's
Blessing"
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On
the Complex
Issue of the
Judenrat
Component of
the Holocaust
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From
The Simon
Wiesenthal
Center:
JUDENRAT:
The Jewish
councils
appointed or
elected to
carry out Nazi
orders in the
Jewish
communities of
occupied
Europe.
It
is hard to
judge their
actions due to
the abnormal
circumstances.
Some believe
they betrayed
the Jews by
obeying
orders, and
others think
they were
trying to gain
time and save
as many people
as possible.
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Judenrat
Leaders
The
Germans
imposed Jewish
councils
(Judenrate) on
the Jewish
communities of
occupied
Europe. In
addition to
administering
welfare and
social
institutions,
Judenrat
leaders were
compelled to
enforce German
orders,
including
assisting in
deportations
to death
camps. Their
responses
ranged from
full
compliance to
suicide.
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Background on
Jewish
Councils
(called
Judenrate)
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QUERY:
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Aerial
reconnaissance
photograph of
Auschwitz
showing
Auschwitz II
(Birkenau)
taken by the
U.S. Air Force
between April
4, 1944 and
January 15,
1945.
The
photos were
discovered in
the Defense
Intelligence
Archives by
two CIA photo
analysts in
1978.
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RE - In Focus:
Oxford
University
Dr. Andrew
Wilkie's Lab:
Israeli Jews
Need Not Apply
SUBJECT:
Israelis and
the high moral
ground of the
Holocaust
QUERY:
- Should political views be injected into the flow of
science?
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3-PART QUERY:
ON YAD VASHEM'S "RIGHTEOUS AMONG THE NATIONS" PROGRAM:
- 1. What, if any, mechanism and criteria is currently in
place for
rescinding a
"Righteous
Among the
Nations" title
and, how many
annulments, if
any, have been
issued?,
- 2. Can one become a "Righteous" if that respective
person
(irrespective
of the
person's
deeds), later
in life, has
been
transformed
into a hater
of Jews and/or
a Holocaust
denier?, and
finally,
- 3. Has the time not come for the Yad Vashem's
"Righteous"
program to be
amended so
that the
"Righteous"
title be
solely based
on a person's
deeds
regarding of
that person's
race, creed,
or religion?
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EDITOR'S
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ARTICLES:
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NOTE: Unwilling or unable to deal with
the issues
raised by our
posted
critical
studies, some
that were
affected
herein joined
forces not in
debating the
issues at
hand, but to
follow the old
adage: if you
cannot attack
the message,
attack the
messenger! All
the
"responses"
received from
the affected
individuals
were nothing
but 'sour
grapes'. The
odd Feinstein-Ganor-Saul triangle formed or Hill
or Tilove or Saul's
most
recent
individual
attacks on the
messenger
--are all
examples of
that desperate
and pathetic
'sour grapes'
approach. By
all means, let
them enjoy
their 'sour
grapes' if
this is the
only thing
that they are
capable of
producing...
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_FLIP.GIF)
The Hiram "Harry" Bingham IV Case: Unlocking Uncle
Harry's
Secrets
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I.
Opening Statement
II.
Hiram Bingham IV
in Marseille,
France
III.
Unlocking Uncle
Harry's 1st
Secret:
He
Was No Hero of
the Holocaust
and Rescuer of
Jews
IV.
Unlocking Uncle
Harry's 2nd
Secret:
He Was No Angel
V.
Unlocking Uncle
Harry's 3rd
Secret:
Transformed Into
a Hater of Jews
and a Holocaust
Denier
VI.
Concluding
Statement
VII.
The Final
Outcome of This
Complex Case:
A Good Man with
a Heart of Gold
but No Hero of
the Holocaust
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On
March 4, 2008,
Dr. Stephen
Feinstein, 65,
died
unexpectedly
of
a brain aortic
aneurysm (that
resulted in a
heart attack)
while speaking
at The Sabes
Foundation
Minneapolis
Jewish Film
Festival.
May he rest in
peace.
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Editor's Critical Assessment
On the Current
Mainstream
Definitions
and Usage of
the Word
'Holocaust'
[Blasting
Dr. Stephen
Feinstein's
Preposterous
Holocaust
Course]
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"The
poor guy
[Brattman] who
runs this site
[iSurvived.org],
couldn't
understand
Elie Wiesel's
statement that
the Holocaust
is a mystery
[sic!] going
alongside a
statement that
it can be
narrated in a
logical way,
the opinion of
most
historians."
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Dr.
Stephen
Feinstein,
Minesota Monitor,
(Posted and
Retracted),
Dec. 15, 2006.
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Editor's
Note: Only
Holocaust
deniers
embrace such a
view that "the
Holocaust is a
mystery" and
no such
preposterous
statement is
to be found
attributed to
Elie Wiesel.
In his 1969
Memoir, "And
The Sea Is
Never Full"
and elsewhere,
Elie Wiesel
repeatedly
talks about
how difficult
is for one to
comprehend the
enormous and
unamiginable
calamity of
the Holocaust.
But that
difficulty and
struggle in
our
comprehension
of the
magnitude of
that tragedy
needs not be
twisted around
to regard the
Holocaust as
being a
"mystery"
which clearly
it was not.
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NOTE
1: As a result
of this posted
critical
study
on the current
mainstream
definitions of
the Holocaust
and the
blasting of
Dr. Stephen
Feinstein's
preposterous
Holocaust
course, this
website
<iSurvived.org>
is now ranked
No. 1 in
Dr. Stephen
Feinstein's Blacklist,
surpasssing
even the
No. 1
Holocaust
Denier
website, on
the grounds
that this
<iSurvived.org>
website is
"Very combattive
[aka 'combative']
and arrogant
site" [sic!].
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"They
don't like me
in
Israel."
Dr. Paulsson
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Nor
do they like
him in
Academia,
anywhere.
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Posting
Dr. Gunnar Steve
Paulsson's
Analyses and
Views on Poland
During the
Holocaust Years:
I.
On
the Marginal
Role of Poles In
Abetting the
Nazi
Perpetrators
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 Editor's
Note: On
May 27, 2004,
in response to
some members
of the Polish
Community from
California, we
posted an
editorial
entitled "Poland's
Past During
the Holocaust
VS. Poland's
Present
Remembrance of
its Wartime
Victims"
where, inter
alia, this
remark was
made by this editor
that during
the Holocaust
years,
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"the
overwhelming
great majority
of Poles at
best remained
indifferent
and at worst
committed
atrocities
beyond any
human
dimension."
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That
statement
caught the
attention of
Dr. Paulsson
who provided a
lengthy
refutal that
is posted in
full herein.
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thesis and
premise that
"the Jews of
Poland where
under no
particular
threat prior
to their
ghettoization"
is
preposterous
beyond words
reaching
perhaps the
level of the
Absurd as it
contradicts a
massive body
of prima
facie
evidence.
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's views and
"research"
purporting to
represent
mainstream
Holocaust
scholarly work
is anything
but that. No
surprise that
in Israel he
is considered
to be an
outcast. "They
don't like me
in Israel"
[sic!], noted
Dr. Paulsson.
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No
surprise that
Dr. Paulsson
is not being
liked anywhere
in academia,
either.
Indeed, only
four (4) years
after he got
his Ph.D., in
1998, no
academic
center,
anywhere in
the world, has
wanted to have
anything to do
with
Dr. Paulsson.
"So academia
is out --what
now?," is
asking
Dr. Paulsson
with respect
to his future
in a posted blog
of
Feb. 11, 2008.
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As
Dr. Paulsson
noted in the
same blog,
"it's been 10
years since I
got my Ph.D.
and not a hint
of a
tenure-track
post
anywhere."
Dr. Paulsson,
since 2002 is
a freelancer,
although as he
noted in the
referenced blog
"I've tried
going into
business --not
where my
talents lie,
I lost
$200,000 --and
freelancing,
no money
there. So I'm
stumped."
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for sure,
cannot find
refuge under
the umbrella
that he is of
Jewish descent
nor that his
mother
(according to
him)
apparently was
a survivor of
Auschwitz and
Ravensbruck
camps.
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Note:
In Dr.
Paulsson's
additional
commentary
posted in full
herein,
he notes that
when he stated
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"the
Jews of Poland
where under no
particular
threat
prior to their
ghettoization,"
he "of course
ment that
their lives
were not yet
threatened."
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that "of
course" is
anyone's guess
as no person
in his/her
normal state
of mind can
reach such
inference.
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The
threat against
Polish Jews
prior to to
their
ghettoization
was most
visible indeed
through many
forms of
manifestation
that
ultimately
--during the
Holocaust
years--
culminated
with their
lives. The
massive grief
and sufferings
of the Jewish
Polish
population
prior to to
their
ghettoization
is beyond
dispute
through the
existing
massive body
of prima
facie
evidence.
.Dr. Paulsson's
new commentary
represents, in
the view of
this editor,
an academic
exercise into
the abyss
employing
bizarre and
incoherent
reasoning as
the one
exemplified
below:
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"many
Jews felt
threatened
...but
there was as
yet no
concrete
threat
that the Poles
could be
expected to
respond to."
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type of
argument and
double talk
that there was
a treat but
not a
"concrete
threat" [sic!]
--which is the
premise upon
which his
entire
argument is
build-up-- is
completely
nonsensical
particularly
when he notes
subsequently
that in fact
some 300,000
Jews saw an
imminent
threat to
their
livelihood as
they fled
Poland. That
kind of
wish-wash talk
and academic
garbage need
not be left
unexposed and
be allowed to
pass
unchallenged.
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Polish
Jews fleeing
Poland for no
apparent
reason and
without a
"concrete
threat"
according to
Dr. Paulsson's
"research" and
view posted herein.
Photo
Credit:
<vilnaghetto.com/gallery/album11/Polish_Holocaust_Fleeing_Jews>
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"Kafkaesque
Dilemma":
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This
Holocaust
Remembrance
Website Is
Supplying
Reputable
Holocaust
Information
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A Real Problem
for Jonathan
Tilove:
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"ISurvived
is mostly a
compendium of
Holocaust
information
built through
links to
hundreds of
reputable
Holocaust
archives and
Jewish education
sites."
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Why
Google and
other Internet
search engines
are ranking
this website
"so high in
their
results"?
--
Jonathan
Tilove's
consuming
question as "no
evidence of any
deceptive
practice" was
found to exist.
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Jonathan Tilove,
the good and
careful
reporter, and
the like angels
struggle with
this dilemma ...
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HOLOCAUST
(CONTROVERSIAL) VIEWS:
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Andrew
Hollinger, Paul
Shapiro, Arthur
Berger, Sara
Bloomfield Must Resign
from the USHMM
The
1933 Vatican Concordat
With Hitler's Reich
by
Robert A. Krieg,
Professor of theology at
the University of Notre
Dame, USA.
Did
the Holocaust Play a
Role in the
Establishment of the
State of Israel?
The
Holocaust, Israel and
Us
by
Rabbi Barry H. Block
Essay
Linking Liberal Jews
and Anti-Semitism
Sparks a Furor
America,
Franklin D. Roosevelt
and the Holocaust
How
Bush's Grandfather
Helped Hitler's Rise
to Power
On
Poland's Past During
the Holocaust VS.
Poland's Present
Remembrance of its
Holocaust Victims
by
K. K. Brattman
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Questioning the Poles
anti-Semitism during
the Holocaust Years:
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An Enduring Myth: "The Poles Were Worse Than the Nazis."
by Deborah Lipstadt
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The
Poles may not
have been
worse than the
Nazis,
but for sure
they were not
far behind ...
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Please
see the
references
below:
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The Killing After the Killing
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After
the Holocaust
ended in 1945,
Poland's
surviving Jews
still faced
hatred from
their fellow
citizens.
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Anti-Semitism and The Holocaust
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Poland was Germany's dress rehearsal for the
slaughter of
Jews...
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Strikes
Poland:
Blitzkrieg,
Ideology, and
Atrocity
by Alexander
B. Rossino
Publisher: University Press of Kansas (2003)
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Poland, One Year After Auschwitz, Being Involved
In the Worst
Peacetime
Pogrom in
20th-century
Europe
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Jews
being buried
in Kielce,
Poland, in
1946 --one
year after the
Nazi Holocaust
ended, as a
result of the
Kielce
massacre
committed by
ordinary
Polish
citizens
against their
own
neighbouring
Jews that were
able to
survive the
Holocaust and
return back to
their homes.
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<mut-gegen-rechte-gewalt.de/eng/news/poland/>
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From
The New York
Times:
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From Washington Post: Remarks by Elie Wiesel
Mourners at the burial of victims of the Kielce pogrom,
Poland,
July 1946.
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May God Have Mercy on Poland's
Monstrous
Anti-Semitic
Deeds, Or
Nobody Will.
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Poland Debates its post-Holocaust History and
anti-Semitism
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and
the book
review
The Power of Hate
by
Dr. Laurence
Weinbaum
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One survivor cited by Michlic
noted:
"For years the
Poles have
been dreaming
of getting rid
of the Jews
and now at
last Hitler
does it for
them.... At
bottom they
are delighted,
however
horrified by
the inhuman
cruelty. The
Krauts
devouring the
Kikes: what
could be
sweeter?"
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Shimon Peres's Exercise into the Absurd:
A Presidential Exoneration
by Dr. Efraim Zuroff, chief Nazi-hunter of the Simon
Wiesenthal
Center
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Krakow Church of 2008 Holds Service Under the
Posters
Declaring:
"The
Kikes Will Not
Continue to
Spit on Us."
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Watch
Out, Israel! The
Holocaust is Coming to
Get You!
by Sam
Schulman (Jewish
World Review).
Commentary
by Dr. Gerhard Falk on
the so-called
"Holocaust Industry"
A
Blistering Critique by
Professor Omer Bartov
on Norman G.
Finkelstein's Book
"The Holocaust Industry"
Ward
Churchill's "Assaults
on Truth and Memory"
[making
the case of the Jewish
bias research claims
that led in camouflaging
the historic parity
between the Gypsies and
the Jews as victims of
the Holocaust.]
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